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Saturday, March 2, 2019

The Misogyny Subculture: Pickup Artists (Part 6)

Every family, group and community has outliers-black sheep one could say. Within the misogyny subculture those black sheep are pickup artists or "PUA".


PUA is a community of men whose primary life goal is to "pick-up" or "romance" as many women as possible with the sole purpose of having sex. They have zero interest in any type of serious relationship. It is completely about sexual conquests.


Now, pick-up artists typically aren't apart of the 20% (from the 80/20 rule). Rather, they are often former incel sympathizers or just "regular dudes".


So, that begs the question how are they able to pick-up women?


Well, pick-up artists employ an approach they claim is scientific. They say it's about sociobiology. According to their philosophy women react to certain physical attributes but also react to specific social cues and mental/emotional manipulation.


PUA believe in crafting their presentation, which they call "game". First, improving one's physical appearance is key. They refer to it as "outer game".  The way to improve the outer game is to change the wardrobe, workout and improve personal hygiene.


Doing this (they say) will lead to a more potent "inner game". Inner game is exactly what it implies, which is improving self-esteem and confidence.


Once, these improvements are enacted guys will be able to actually fine tune their approach and their seduction.


You're probably thinking, "Ok. This actually sounds like good advice. Sure, the goal of sleeping with as many women as possible is a bit douchebaggy but what is the problem really?"


And, that is a fair point. It is actually what I thought too. It is certainly a point pua make. In fact, they frequently turn this advice into a lucrative business on the lecture and workshop circuits and on YouTube where their videos get massive views which results in huge monetization.


 But, of course, there are caveats and very substantive tangible reasons these guys are apart of the misogyny subculture.


Pick-up artists, unlike their brethren, aren't ideologues. They do not necessarily harbor an intense resentment of women. They are not red pills who believe women are out to conduct male genocide. Nor do pua have an irrational abhorrence for feminists.


However, pick-up artists do possess disdain and disregard for women. They view women as points in a contest or as objects to be conquered and subsequently discarded.


And, here is where pua's misogyny is most illuminated. As has been established, the only end goal is to seduce a woman into sex. Unfortunately, there are no principled guidelines or tethered structures as to how that is achieved.


Pick-up artists are notorious for having no shame in their game. They will do whatever it takes to get the pudding. If that means they feel it's necessary to lead a woman into believing an actual serious relationship is possible they'll do it knowing they have zero intentions of that. If it entails preying on emotionally vulnerable or unstable women , they will do it.


A well-known tactic that pua employ is negging. Negging is the practice of giving backhanded compliments or simply just being an ass. It is supposed to be a form of reverse psychology. For example a guy practicing negging will say, "You have great breasts! They can't be real. " The basic principle is women actually respond more favorably to men who
 ignore them or mildly insult them. Allegedly negging weakens women's defenses making them more vulnerable to seduction. Negging can also be employed against a woman's significant other instead of her with the same goal in mind.


(Side note: If negging disgusts you, it should. But, I can tell you I have personally witnessed it be successful in both methods [against the woman and her significant other in her presence].)


Some pua take it to the extremes, also. If running game doesn't work, some will resort to coercion or rape.


Pick-up artists essentially view women as commodities. Or, even more crassly they see women as prey. They checkout out the scene. They approach them. They lure them into the trap. Then, they kill it, so to speak. And, they move on with no remorse nor regard for the carnage they might left behind.


This callous attitude is why many people especially feminists believe pick-up artists are the most toxic among the misogyny subculture groups. Sure, they don't appear as misogynistic as let's say mgtow or as nihilistic and virulent as incels or as demeaning and slut shaming as crypto-misogynists; however, they are every bit as dangerous. They use whatever they have to do to entice women into sex then often leave them emotionally and mentally scarred. Sometimes their manipulation is physical.


But, why are pick-up artists considered the black sheep of the subculture? Well, let's begin with incels. Some incels (red pills) buy into what pick-up artists are selling.


However, many incels (red and black pills) think pick-up artists are selling false hope and more importantly betraying the ideology. Let's not forget incels' entire existence is predicated on the belief they are forcibly celibate because they possess certain physical and/or financial shortcomings that doom them to a lonely life and feminism is so pervasive within society that either a miraculous shift would have to occur or that shift is never coming. Oh, and we can't neglect the "reality" that 80% of "females" are vain vapid bitches and hoes whom are only interested in chads or beta males/cucks they can use and then throw away. (NOTE: Be VERY wary of any dude who primarily or exclusively refers to women as "females". This likely is an indicator they don't possess a generally favorable view of women. IJS) So, needless to say some dudes saying that if these incels just worked out; showered; and realized Aqua-Fresh isn't only good for cheap caulking they would get a little taste of pudding, is antithetical to the party line.


While some incels distrust pua, mgtow and crypto-misogynists detest them! Mgtow and crypto-misogynists believe pick-up artists are nothing less than snake oil salesmen. They believe pua's techniques and purporting of sociobiology is pseudoscience. (BTW they're correct; it largely is.) Essentially, they think pick-up artists are grifter blue pills selling false hope, pathetically naive to the insidious evil of feminism and who are liars because their "conquests are few and far between" regardless what their bragging says.


Pick-up artists believe mgtow are " simply pathetic losers who have no game and can't handle rejection". Their opinion of incels is a bit softer. They believe incels are losers too, but they "wallow in their pity because other incels and mgtow have encouraged them to do so." Most pua feel if incels just followed their advice they would having sex all the time.


Very similar to the other groups pua uses the internet as their main communication tool. They cluster in online groups and forums they call "lairs". They utilize these lairs to swap "trade secrets" and brag about conquests.


It should come as no surprise that within the confines of the lairs the misogyny and virulent rhetoric increases. I pointed out earlier that pua doesn't come across as misogynistic and hateful as the other groups and that is generally true. They are not likely to pervade Twitter, Twitch or Redditt with spiteful venomous name calling and harassing women. But, in the privacy of the lairs the name calling and disparaging is quite present. And, it does occasionally seep out into more public and well trafficked platforms. Especially in the form of negging.


Pick-up artists might be viewed as the illegitimate sons of the misogyny subculture but they are apart of it nonetheless. No, they don't wallow in self-pity like incels. They are not hateful pious jackasses like mgtow. Nor are they sanctimonious sexists like crypto-misogynists. Make no mistake though, they are every bit as misogynistic.


Women are literally nothing more than a piece of ass. They virtually see women in three categories: women they've fucked; women they haven't fucked yet; and, women they don't deem worthy of fucking. And, they will literally do whatever it takes to get the ass regardless what it is.


That attitude and approach itself is quintessential misogyny.


 

Saturday, February 16, 2019

The Misogyny Subculture: MGTOWs (Part 4)

In the previous blog I discussed incels in-depth. I went over their worldview and what shapes it. Also, I covered their philosophy that men essentially go in one of three directions: blue pill (men who see the world as they want it to be); black pill (men who view the world as a wasteland where women rule and men are systematically victimized by genocide, thus there is no hope) and red pill (men who believe they see the world for what it is in reality, which is feminism is systematically attempting to genocide all men, but while the outlook is bleak all hope is not lost).


This installment will circle in on a subset of red pills called mgtow (men who go their own way).


While mgtows are a subset of red pills they are definitely a distinct group of their own. Similar to incels mgtows believe the vast majority of women are shallow deceitful creatures who are guided by feminism to wreck natural order and make men extinct. They also believe the combination of shallowness and feminism is what leads women to practicing hypergamy.


Now, unlike incels mgtows don't claim involuntary celibacy or a lack of genetics is their problem. They are men who have consciously decided to swear off women. They have vowed not to engage in serious relationships. Marriage is equivalent to suicide in their eyes.


Another area mgtows differ from incels is, although they have sworn off women, most of them will still have casual sex with women (preferably prostitutes). However, some mgtows actually have pledged abstinence, which they refer to as "going monk".


The mgtow movement began in the mid-2000s likely around 2005. Like incels they originated as an online group in Reddit. They eventually expanded their presence as they began popping up on Twitter. And, they have carved out quite a niche on YouTube where there are a plethora of guys who produce content geared toward mgtows and pushing their propaganda about women.


The mgtow worldview and philosophy is not much different from incels in they have an intense disdain for feminism. While it is probably fair to say mgtows possess more nuanced "classifications" of women than incels, they share the same base perception that women are predominantly "trash".


Mgtows believe good women exist but they still want nothing to do with them because they are always capable of "turning". However, unlike incels, mgtows willingly accept female allies. And, they actually have more than one might expect. In fact, it is quite common from my observations to see women make appearances in mgtow videos and even independently make videos advocating for the mgtow cause.


Despite this alliance with select women mgtows are capable of being every bit as misogynistic as incels. I would say mgtows lean toward being more sexist than misogynistic but admittedly that might be a distinction without a difference.


Mgtows believe the world should go back to the 1950s when women were "barefoot and in the kitchen". They whole heartedly believe feminism has poisoned women's minds causing them to "not know their place".


Also, they subscribe to assertion that women have essentially taken over the workplace and the government installing a feminist agenda that is systematically destroying the fabric of the family and society. According to them their is a hierarchy ordained by God that says men are atop the pyramid and women are subservient. However, they don't see themselves generally as religious fundamentalists. I suspect that is because theoretically that would interfere with the banging of prostitutes. But, again, that is merely a suspicion.


Certainly, misogyny is a staple of their platform. It is extremely evident in the way they address feminists. It is not uncommon for feminists to be referred to as "whores", "sluts", "bitches" and "cunts". As stated earlier, they seem to make more of a distinction than incels do who are the "good" women and who are the "bad" women, but to the women they consider bad they are repugnant.


Mgtows are notorious for perpetuating rape culture. They believe most women who are victims of sexual assault are at fault for getting raped because of the way they dress or because they are "dick teases".  They also believe a significant amount of men are falsely accused and there is an inadequate amount of sympathy extended toward them.


These dudes truly feel the court system is prejudiced against them also. According to them not only are men biased against in sexual assault cases but are at distinct disadvantages when it comes to divorce and child custody cases. This belief largely lends to their disavowal of marriage and having children.


Interestingly (or not so interestingly), mgtows almost exclusively skew to far right side of the political spectrum. Many of them associate themselves with the alt-right or male chauvinist groups like the Proud Boys. Also, many mgtows along with being misogynistic and sexist are racist, xenophobic and homophobic.


Speaking of homophobia, while unquestionably mgtows believe feminism is the root of all evil, they too believe the LGBTQ community is out to destroy straight men. They believe society's construct is being manipulated to give undeserved attention to the LGBTQ community which is a nefarious attempt to generate male genocide.


Another intriguing aspect to mgtows is their contempt for pickup artists (pua). I have mentioned in previous blogs incels believe "puas" are scammers and snake oil salesmen giving men false hope.


Well, mgtows believe the same thing except there is a bit more of personal animosity. Pickup artists believe (or at least say they do) incels are just dudes down on their luck who need confidence, a stick of Juicy Fruit and a shower. But, they think mgtows are simply "losers" and they say as such.


I don't wanna go to deep here because puas will have their own installment in this series; however, it must be noted pick-up artists believe mgtows are just dudes who are lazy and weak. They think mgtows seeking out sex workers is an example of an unwillingness to work on their "game". Whereas they view incels as losers too but principled losers who just need the proper tools to begin "bedding" women.


It's all odd.


Most people would say incels are infinitely more dangerous than mgtows because they seemingly pose more of an imminent threat. I understand that perspective.


However, I think in the grander scheme mgtows pose a more significant threat because they actually can integrate into society better. They are not generally social outcasts. Their sexism and misogyny can easily be more propagated and come across as less toxic. The problem is it's every bit as toxic.


I compare it to the weaving in of racism into the political discourse. What someone like Steve Bannon says is every bit as pernicious as what Steve King says. The difference is Bannon cloaks his rhetoric in populism and plausibly deniable statements whereas King is almost blatant in his rhetoric. He leaves little, if any, wiggle room.


Mgtows are no different from Bannon in their approach. Sure, if provoked, they will expose their hand, but generally they cloak their anti-feminism in spurious claims of persecution of men. On the other hand, incels give away the game going all in on all women from the jump.


Make no mistake mgtows are simply more sophisticated incels. The distinctions are narrow but real. Regardless, the disdain for feminism is the same and the misogyny has the potential of being just as raw and unfettered.

Saturday, February 2, 2019

The Misogyny Subculture: Incels (Part 2)

INCELS! Where do I begin?


As I began to map the manner which I would lay out this series, I initially thought I would save the incel posts for last. Incels are the most interesting, intriguing and fascinating arm of this subculture. Thus, they (in a totally perverse and disturbing way) deserve to be the finale of this series.


But, then I realized they should be discussed first. Incels are the heartbeat, such as it is, of this movement. While it certainly can be said they are the culmination of misogyny and anti-feminism radicalization, it is their ideology that permeates throughout the entire subculture.


Perhaps, the other misogyny groups are not as virulent as the incels but they certainly are as dogmatic and that dogma comes from the incels.


So, who exactly are the incels?


In the introductory post I provided a brief and admittedly lacking overview. Here I will go into more detail and provide much more context.


As described in the previous post, incels stands for "involuntarily celibate". It is a group of men (primarily white heterosexual men) who are either virgins or who have gone an extended time period without having sex or a serious relationship. This lack of intimacy and sex is exclusively involuntary. And, according to incel ideology, the incels' lack of sex is directly due to women being shallow and having unreasonable expectations, which causes them to not overlook "regular" guys' flaws, and only go after genetically and/or financially superior men. Oh, and the root cause of women's "unreasonable expectations" and the incels' inability to get laid is........FEMINISM. Surprised by that, aren't you?


Before we go deep into the nuances of incels' ideology and structure, which is something I will do in the next blog, allow me to provide a brief history of the culture's beginnings. The term "incel" was actually created by a Canadian college student named "Alana" in 1993. She started a website for men and women who were having issues in the dating scene.


Somewhere along the line in the late 1990s and early 2000s the term was co-opted. The initial co-opting focused on the struggles of socially awkward men (mainly young men/teenagers) ability to date and/or have sex. Forums began popping up online for these guys to go into to voice their concerns, frustrations and problems.


Well, as with most things online, nefarious actors got involved and began preying on these guys. As the 2010s approached, there began to be a radicalization. Instead of simply focusing on how to improve these dudes' social awkwardness or encourage them to improve themselves or accentuate their positives there began to be a fomenting of resentment and anger. Wallowing in self-pity and depression became a way of life.


With the encouragement of these nefarious inciters and each other the anger, resentment, and self-loathing was turned from being something largely introspective into an outward aggression against women-essentially all women. Instead of self-hate these guys began transforming that hate into blatantly malignant sexism and misogyny. Women became the enemy and feminism began being seen as the nexus of evil.


This malignancy began bubbling underneath the surface. Although sexism and misogyny are commonplace in society this vitriolic more intense misogynistic, anti-feminist subculture was being cultivated underground and in the fever swamps of the internet.


It targeted primarily teenage boys and young men. Chat rooms and forums littered the internet providing a safe place for these incels to go and freely espouse their disdain for women and feminism.


The thing was it went largely unnoticed. Sure, these dudes would pop up on Twitter and Facebook spewing all sorts of venom and hateful rhetoric toward women but they were blown off as "internet trolls".


Reddit became a hotspot for incels. The incel subreddit was one of the more populated and toxic forums on Reddit. In fact, it became so toxic that Reddit was forced to shut it down. However, the incels went around that by creating a new forum with a new name.


In the next blog I will go into the nuances and intricacies of the incel ideology. To be able to fully grasp who these guys are and what shapes them you must understand their worldview and what comprises it.


Yes, it is resentment of women and detest for feminism, but it is a bit more complex than that. They have created an entire language and platform to buoy their ideology. Of course, make no mistake the foundation for their existence and their world view is hatred of women and blaming women for every one of their problems.


For the most part incels are seen as harmless. Most people see them as pathetic. But, they can be very dangerous. While most of the time their rhetoric is just vapid inane bullshit spewed online, there have been times it has provided real world consequences.


Back in 2014 Elliot Rodger killed six people and shot 14 more in a mass shooting near the University of California-Santa Barbara campus. Rodger also died during the shooting. A 144 page manifesto Rodger wrote was discovered. In the manifesto Rodger detailed his utter disdain for women largely stemming from his perceived inability to get women to have sex with him. He said he wanted to kill as many women as possible.


After the mass shooting and until this day incels hold Rodger in high esteem and consider him a hero. Many incels believe Elliot Rodger performed a community service (of sorts) and should be immortalized for "having the guts to do what is necessary and right".


Other incidents perpetrated by incels include a guy in Toronto driving his car into a crowd back in 2016 and the guy who shot six people killing two at a yoga studio in Tallahassee just months ago. Numerous other incidents have taken place over the last 10 years or so that have elements of incel ideology.


Yet, the mainstream media and the public at large continue to mostly ignore this subculture. And, even worse, in the Rodger murders along with many of the other incidents the media (I suspect unwittingly) play into the incel ideology by quasi blaming women for not giving these guys some ass. Absolutely astounding.


Here's the thing, this misogyny subculture is real and it's malignant. Incels are a group to be taken seriously.


I realize I may be working a bit backwards here. But, I wanted to provide a history. The nuances of Incels' ideology is important and key to understanding them.


In the next blog I will go into detail regarding the different factions within the community. I will also explain their rather disturbing fatalistic philosophies that entail how a guy like Elliot Rodger was radicalized and why there a plethora more like him milling about in the streets.







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